THE VIDEO SHELF · systemd
The Tragedy of systemd
FreeBSD developer Benno Rice traces the history of init and bootstrap systems at linux.conf.au 2019 to explain why systemd was seen as necessary and why it provokes such strong reactions. He also discusses why change is scary.
Why HN readers recommended it
The most-recommended balanced take on systemd, from a BSD perspective, handed to anyone caught up in the systemd debate.
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Video & recommendation details
- Creator / channel
- linux.conf.au
- Topic
- systemd
- Format
- talk
- Level
- intermediate
- HN recommenders in dataset
- 16
- HN mentions in dataset
- 20
- Recommendation years in dataset
- 2019–2025
These counts and years describe the included Hacker News records; they are not YouTube views or the video’s publication date.
From the original HN conversations
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It’s interesting you say that? It runs completely counter to my experience coming from the “BSD-style” rc.d init Arch used to use, and migrating to systemd. Any specific issues? I didn’t see any. No offense. One factor may be that Arch prioritizes not patching upstream …
TimeBearingDown on Hacker News · 2024-04
In Ubuntu 24.04 (and Debian) removed libsystemd from SSH server dependencies> Turning Linux into Windows by replicating svchost.exe shouldn't be applauded by the Linux community. ... We've got Linux's PID 1 (for most distros) controlled by a MS employee, who replicated Windows' svchost.exe. And people are all excited? systemd was pretty consciously patterned after launchd, …
eropple on Hacker News · 2024-04
In A BSD person tries Alpine Linux[VIDEO] (The Tragedy of systemd) is an interesting talk on this topic from the view of someone (Benno Rice) in BSD land. Highly recommended. EDIT: this is mentioned in the article, thanks koalacola
SahAssar on Hacker News · 2024-08
In Systemd, 10 years later: a historical and technical retrospective (2020)
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