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Edward Kmett - Type Classes vs. the World

Edward Kmett speaks at the Boston Haskell meetup about type classes and the design tradeoffs of global coherence compared with other approaches to implicit instances. It covers why uniqueness of instances matters for reasoning and refactoring.

Why HN readers recommended it

HN points to it as the definitive explanation of why coherence and the orphan rule matter, in debates over Haskell, Rust traits, OCaml modules and Elm.

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Video & recommendation details

Creator / channel
Boston Haskell
Topic
type classes
Format
talk
Level
advanced
HN recommenders in dataset
2
HN mentions in dataset
6
Recommendation years in dataset
2015–2024

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From the original HN conversations

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  • The point is a little more subtle than this, or how the article made it out to be. Global coherence and confluence (which GHC attempts to enforce unless told otherwise) is great for refactoring and equational reasoning and (yes) mathematics and programming at large, as …

    shadytrees on Hacker News · 2015-09
    In Haskell's Type Classes: We Can Do Better
  • Edward Kmett has a great explanation[1] of the considerations around this space. It's not that alternatives to the orphan rule are hard to implement, it's that they lead to things being much harder to reason about for the programmer. [1]: [VIDEO]

    Twey on Hacker News · 2023-08
    In This isn’t the way to speed up Rust compile times

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