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Why Would AI Want to do Bad Things? Instrumental Convergence

Robert Miles explains instrumental convergence: why an AGI with almost any goal would tend to pursue sub-goals like self-preservation and resource acquisition. It builds on Omohundro's basic AI drives and his orthogonality thesis video.

Why HN readers recommended it

HN commenters repeatedly recommend it as the clearest introduction to why smart AI might behave badly by default.

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Video & recommendation details

Creator / channel
Robert Miles AI Safety
Topic
ai safety instrumental convergence
Format
explainer
Level
intro
HN recommenders in dataset
6
HN mentions in dataset
8
Recommendation years in dataset
2019–2023

These counts and years describe the included Hacker News records; they are not YouTube views or the video’s publication date.

From the original HN conversations

Excerpts from the recorded comments. Follow each source for the full comment and surrounding discussion.

  • ...and many would say that’s because us humans are bad at imagining optimizing agents without anthropomorphizing them. This is a reasonable, even typical suspicion that many people share! The best explanation I know of why it’s unfortunately wrong is by Robert Miles in a video, …

    ludwigschubert on Hacker News · 2019-09
    In Emergent Tool Use from Multi-Agent Interaction
  • The basic argument is trivial: it is plausible that future systems achieve superhuman capability; capable systems necessarily have instrumental goals; instrumental goals tend to converge; human preferences are unlikely to be preserved when other goals are heavily selected for unless intentionally preserved; we don't know …

    Veedrac on Hacker News · 2023-05
    In Statement on AI Risk
  • The paperclip maximizer is an extreme thought experiment to make a point about the the orthogonality thesis. If you think anyone actually takes it seriously as a real-world thing you never understood the example. It is used to guide discussion. The trolley problem is similarly …

    DirkH on Hacker News · 2023-06
    In The greatest risk of AI is from the people who control it, not the tech itself

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