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The Real Story Behind Wayland and X - Daniel Stone (linux.conf.au 2013)

Daniel Stone, a longtime X and Wayland developer, explains at linux.conf.au 2013 why X11's design became untenable and what motivated Wayland. The talk walks through X's history and accumulated cruft.

Why HN readers recommended it

HN treats it as the definitive, funny and educational answer to why X could not be fixed, and links it in almost every Wayland vs X argument.

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Video & recommendation details

Creator / channel
Mladen Mijatov
Topic
wayland vs x11
Format
talk
Level
intermediate
HN recommenders in dataset
13
HN mentions in dataset
20
Recommendation years in dataset
2013–2026

These counts and years describe the included Hacker News records; they are not YouTube views or the video’s publication date.

From the original HN conversations

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  • Daniel Stone actually did a talk involving much of the same subject matter called "The Real Story behind Wayland and X". I'd recommend that over this article (which was partially written by the same guy). He's actually a really charismatic speaker. [VIDEO]

    jmhain on Hacker News · 2013-06
    In Facts about Wayland vs X
  • I remember finding this video enlightening, a talk on the subject by someone who has worked on both X and Wayland: [VIDEO]

    jabirali on Hacker News · 2020-08
    In Some Ugly Code Can Get Nvidia's Linux Driver Working with Accelerated XWayland
  • > when in fact the lead developers on Wayland are the actual Xorg maintainers. Daniel Stone[0] incredibly funny and educational talk[1] from 2013 could help many critics who missed the 3 decade long ongoing discussion of why X is bad . We've talked about this …

    DyslexicAtheist on Hacker News · 2021-02
    In Wayland is not ready as a 1:1 compatible Xorg replacement just yet

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