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Benno Rice: The Tragedy of systemd -- BSDCan 2018

Benno Rice's BSDCan 2018 talk on why systemd exists and what it got right and wrong. It traces the history of Unix init and why Linux distributions adopted it, while asking what the BSDs should learn.

Why HN readers recommended it

HN recommends it as a balanced, eloquent take on the systemd debate that even skeptics find persuasive.

This is a summary from the source dataset, not an endorsement by Hacker News or the video creator.

Video & recommendation details

Creator / channel
BSDCan
Topic
systemd and init systems
Format
talk
Level
intermediate
HN recommenders in dataset
4
HN mentions in dataset
5
Recommendation years in dataset
2018–2024

These counts and years describe the included Hacker News records; they are not YouTube views or the video’s publication date.

From the original HN conversations

Excerpts from the recorded comments. Follow each source for the full comment and surrounding discussion.

  • >Personally, I never found startup time to be much of a problem, on any OS. Well, start up problem is a matter of convenience, it's not a fatal problem, but I just like that my laptop with arch+systemd+systemd-boot starts instantly (3 seconds + 6 seconds …

    ernst_klim on Hacker News · 2018-11
    In BSDs or Illumos may be good alternatives to Linux (2017)
  • One of the better videos on this subject: [VIDEO] BSDCan 2018—Benno Rice: The Tragedy of systemd "systemd is, to put it mildly, controversial. Depending on who you ask it's either a complete violation of the UNIX philosophy, a bloated pile of bugs, a complete violation …

    sjwright on Hacker News · 2019-05
    In Linux distros without systemd
  • A nice talk that might change your view of the subject is the following: [VIDEO] . It's a video from BSDCan, the Canadian BSD conference. Even some BSD people are realizing that systemd has a good point to exist!

    znpy on Hacker News · 2019-09
    In Knoppix 8.6 abandons systemd

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